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Me and my insanely bad lists. :D

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Post  IASGATG on 2010-11-11, 15:48

On the one hand, I could make a sensible list, on the other hand I made this.

HQ
Vect - 240
Dais of Destruction - 220
Drazhar - 230

Elites
8 Incubi w/ Klaivex and upgrades - 273

Troops
11 Warriors w/ Blaster and Dark Lance - 139
11 Warriors w/ Blaster and Dark Lance - 139
11 Warriors w/ Blaster and Dark Lance - 139

Heavy Support
Ravager w/ Nightshield - 115

Total - 1495

There is nothing wrong with a 963 point HQ unit.
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Post  syxx on 2010-11-11, 17:27

They will die nicely
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Post  Johnny KTOU on 2010-11-11, 19:07

I just want to make sure: no raiders with your Warriors ? So you're automatically losing/drawing 2/3rd of the missions...

I don't know what Vect does, but he's a vehicule right ? You only have two then, so all the ennemy AT found their target. As Syxx said Twisted Evil

Even your Mandrake army list was better than that !!! Laughing
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Post  IASGATG on 2010-11-11, 19:09

It has a 5+ Invun save a 4+ cover save and 13 armour all round.
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Post  Johnny KTOU on 2010-11-11, 19:40

I have 3 meltas guns, 2 will hit, 2 will penetrate, you'll save one...

I admit I haven't seen his new rules yet, but I remember playing against Vect in the old Codex. And being a vehicule it was so easy to make him useless.

The basic problem is that you pay for all these "upgrades": AV13 all around when you usually shoot at the front (all your fast vehicules should out maneuvre us I guess), 4+ save that you can get by other means (flat out moving, making sure half of it is in cover), 5+ inv save (I never make my 5+ inv saves with Straken!!!). And he can't be isolated in CC (I'm only guessing here), so he WILL get shot at.

He is 460 in total isn't he ? (Dais is his vehicule right ?) If he's being played the same way he was in the old codex, please, oh please forget him Laughing

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Post  IASGATG on 2010-11-11, 19:44

Vect is just a unit, the Dais is a raider with 13 armour and 3 dark lances. Also 6" against your meltas. Vect himself has a 2+ invun, 4+ invun and a ton of other poo poo.
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Post  Johnny KTOU on 2010-11-11, 21:11

Oh ok, it used to be only one model.

It's not as bad then, but that's a lot in the same basket: one unit (I'm guessing Vect and the Incubi are together) and not as hard to kill, nearly 1000 pts !!! Without raiders you warriors will be sitting back as scoring units, shooting 2 weapons each while Vectounet tries to make some damage.

If I don't kill you transport first or incapacitate it, you'll charge, annihilate the first unit you find, then you'll be there waiting for my whole army to shoot at you which will probably kill all your incubi with low AP weapons, leaving Vectounet alone, he'll probably kill another unit, and that will be it, he'll die next turn under massed lasgun.

I don't know, he's not as bad as I first thought, the combo IS powerful but not like this in 1500pts. They need support, to have an army built around them, your whole force has to be mobile.
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Post  IASGATG on 2010-11-11, 21:37

Vect and Drazhar are part of the Incubi squad, although of course I can detach them into three seperate units once they get off the raider if I want. The warriors just hide in as much cover as possible at as far range as possible shooting anything heavy. They will be accompanied by the Ravager.

The basic idea is that the Dais moves 26-36 inches towards you in the first turn, hopefully surviving because it is about as tough as a land raider with its cover saves and armour etc. Second turn it moves another 12", they all get out. Depending on the situation, I can split them up into three squads if needed. Vect can drop blast templates that'll pretty much insta-kill any guard is lands on. The Incubi upgrade has a flamer template that does similar. Then they'll assault you and tear the lovely-jubbely out of you that way. I get hit again, but taking off four wounds against a 2+ invun and feel no pain will be a hard task. He then puts another blast template, each wound it does, Vect gets healed back.

It's very much a laugh build. I also have a funny and secret Kabal list that might lovely-jubbely you up a little more. A Hellion list I'm musing with and a Haemoculi list to test the new beastie toys.

So much I want to try, so few chances to do it.
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Post  Johnny KTOU on 2010-11-11, 22:15

Yeep new DE codex sounds fun Laughing
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Post  Orc4life on 2010-11-12, 15:13

13 armor allround wow that nmakes it easier to kiull than land raiders which for me aint hard power claws ands tankbusters withthere bombs that are 2ds +6 pen hmmm not ard as for silly 2 up invunrable u wanna try making 20 2 ups i smell some 1's in there hehe, still some evil sounding and redunculous stuff for de as always look foprward rto kicking ur toad in the whole as only time i played u was 2 v 1. Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes
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Post  IASGATG on 2010-11-12, 15:29

The reason it's about as hard to kill as a land raider is the fact it's moving over 26" (Max of 36), with a cover and an invun save, with the minus to your range and the 13 armour. You are right, the guy will suffer some wounds, he does have four however and he does regenerate them when he wounds you.

The biggest problem, like always, is the fact we're toughness 3, which means two multilasers firing at Vect will kill him (Assuming the mutlilasers have 3 or more shots and probability works). However, the plus side is that he wont be alone in that circumstance, you have 9 other guys to kill, one of which cannot be insta-killed by the toughness deficit.
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Post  Johnny KTOU on 2010-11-12, 20:01

I agree on the resilience of the Dais compared to the LR. 13 all around + all the advantages are as good as the LR resilience. Then add the bonuses for speed. Plus Russ, you're only gonna hit on a 6 if he moves 12" every turn... and if you somehow manage to catch it in close combat... Be careful though about wound allocation: on the shooting phase you better pass ALL you 2+ saves from massed plasmas/multilaser as you HAVE TO allocate some to Vect, and in CC, is he still an IC?

I think you need to brng your list to the club now Laughing We'll all want to have a go Laughing
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Post  IASGATG on 2010-11-12, 20:30

Hah, it'll die so fast everyone probably will get to have a go. Smile
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Post  WarBunka-Charlie on 2010-11-13, 19:04

I like to see the New Dark Eldar against Russ' Ork Horde of Uber!

Be a good match!

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Post  Orc4life on 2010-11-14, 11:25

yes specialy with the additions of units from the asault book were i get mega tanks grot tanks and hell killa kans as elites its all good, and if u really want it ill throw in a megga dread and a stompa Twisted Evil I love you drunken ahhh see probabilioty and poo poo like that dont fly with me as for hard to kill ask tonys poor nids or hell u say hard to catchu for get the speed of the orcs and hit on 6's yeah i can roll them Razz
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