Feel No Pain

The rule is: "... Neither can it be used against wounds from AP1 and AP2 weapons, power weapons and any other wound against no armour save can ever be taken (like wounds from power fists, Dreadnought close combat weapons, rending weapons that roll a 6, Perils of the Warp, failed dangerous terrain tests, etc)."

1/ Does that mean I can not use Feel No Pain against a bolter (AP5) with Harker ?

2/ Does that mean I can not use Feel No Pain either against Inferno bolts from Thousand sons (AP3) with Space Marines ?

3/ Does that mean I can't use Feel No Pain with Nobz Bikers against AP4 weapons ?

4/ A bit of an over stretched, does that mean Deamons can't use it at all as they don't have an armour save (only Invulnerable save)

Many thanks !

Feel No Pain is ignored by a weapon that never allows armour saves, not one that doesn't allow armour saves if you're shooting it at a specific unit. AP4 weapons sometimes ignore saves, and so they don't ignore FnP, even if they currently are ignoring your save.

I do hope forkbanger simply missed your negations.

AP5, 4 and 3 do not "negate armour saves period", which is why 1/, 2/ and 3/ are best answered with a resounding "NO! You do infact get your FnP in that instance!*"

*EDIT: Unless of course the attacks would happen to inflict instant death. Thanks, Culven. Won't be seeing a whole lot of that from Bolters/Inferno Bolts though. A Battle Cannon however, for example, still denies FNP for Biker Nobs (just as easily as it does for normal ones, seeing how Instant Death depends on base Toughness. Wanted to mention this due to OP bringing up Biker Nobs in particular).

As for 4/, the fact that Daemons don't have armour saves doesn't affect their ability to benefit fron FnP at all.

Originally Posted by Noob
If you read the feel no pain rule, it states that "If a model with this ability suffers an unsaved wound, roll 1,2 or 3. take the wound as normal"

so for example - A trooper with a SV4+ is hit with a weopon with AP4. the trooper doesnt get a saving roll but does he get a FNP roll?
because the rule states "and other wounds which no armour save can ever be taken"
- he's not getting a save roll so does this mean no Feel no pain roll too?

does this make sense or am i mad?
It goes on to give examples of what ignores with no possible armor save. The best way to think of it (IMHO) is to ask would a terminator get his normal (2+) armor save, if the answer is yes then FnP applies, if the answer is no then FnP does not apply.


Edit: I hope this posts, it seems I am having trouble posting so hopefully no double or triple posts

Johnny KTOU wrote:I hate having arguments like that... Sorry Steve if it got a bit heated up... Well my post on Warseer (please tell if this is not the question we were arguing about):

I must admit I always have my doubts about anonymous people on the net spouting off the gospel of how they read the rules-I question their objectivness.